And Tony Neumann and Terry Neumann and Jackie Stanley and Claude Stanley - they are really, I think, economically, a lost generation. They're the people who, at the beginning of our project in 1991, had lost their foothold in the middle class, and they were never to gain it back, and as we get to 20
became apparent at some point that they didn't have a lot of savings. There was not some kind of funny money set aside, and that it was a big worry. In 2013, Claude Stanley is talking about how he heard something on the radio that you have to have $1,000,000 to retire. And then he just kind of guffaws.
It's been very hard on Claude Stanley. He happens to be one of those people who just looks great all the time. So you could look at Claude, and you could say, well, this hasn't taken too much of a toll on Claude, but it absolutely did. He's had some health problems. He's had some illnesses. And it w
actually left Milwaukee, because he's literally tired of the gunfire. In the Stanleys' neighborhood, where, as Kathy has said, Jackie and Claude Stanley keep an immaculate house, their kids are worried about it being a dangerous neighborhood, and they wish their parents could afford to move somewhere else.